Gameplay and Attribute Suggestions - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru

Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru

		Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Inner Circle > Sardelac Sanitarium
Gameplay and Attribute Suggestions

Mark Forums Read

Notices

To the entire Guru community:

It's with a heavy heart that I must inform you that this site, Guild Wars Guru, will be shutting down on July 1st and will remain in Archive Mode. Over the past 11 years, we've become, and continued to remain, the #1 fansite for Guild Wars, and it's all because to you guys. Without such a strong and passionate community, Guru would have never made it this far and so we thank you for that.

And while we will be saying good-bye to our home here, we will continue to host forums for the GW community over at our sister site, Guild Wars 2 Guru. In fact, you are more than welcome to head on over now and begin posting. If you have any threads you'd like to transfer over, now would be the time.

So once again thank you, and especially those that contributed their time and knowledge to make Guru the amazing place it was. We'll see you over at Guild Wars 2 Guru!

Closed Thread

Page 2 of 2

2

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

#21

Dudededu

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGuru

Your point?

Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

I fail to see the point where a monk is shutdown, a warrior who is snared can proves your point? Congratulations, you friends have tried to troll the thread. Find something better to do.

The scenario you describe is alien to me, since there isnt just a group with one monk or one warrior. One monk can be dissabled but usually takes the effort of more than one person of an oposing team if you know what your doing. No other players? Are there no other monks on your team? No hex breakers? What about people killing the controlers before they reach the monk? Or dissabling the controller? Never won a fight even tho monk died?
Same goes for a snared warrior.

Dudededu is offline

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 07:17 PM // 19:17

#22

Mistress Dasha

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Guild: Turner of Tides

Profession: W/N

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGuru

English?

english huh what did I write in some foreign language..

Mistress Dasha is offline

Jul 13, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#23
InvaderGIR Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	Wasn't planning on posting here, but here's what I got to say. Nearly a majority of the people that call for changes within existing classes are those who only want their class to be overpowered. The only exception are for those regarding pets since most of the suggestions I've seen regarding pets aren't going to stir a lot of imbalance. Despite no matter what people say, all the classes are balanced. Not necessarily each one has equal potential against another class, but had there been an imbalance, wouldn't we see a ton of one class in a team? No. We see a multitude of classes in each team. Now, let me ask you this. If you know fighting against a warrior with your ranger brings you so much trouble, why are you fighting the warrior then? I'm going to go ahead and use that teamwork "BS" you talked about since 1 vs 1 hasn't been implemented yet. But you know what? Not even team work will necessarily cut it. The key to victory in Guild Wars relies on pre-PvP preparation and you cannot deny that. In addition to your theory about fighting the warriors, it only holds true if it was just a pure warrior class and a pure ranger class. No subclasses were taken into consideration. A R/E can handle upclose warriors with burst spells, adjacent knockdowns, etc. A R/Me can use certain mantras and protections against warriors. A R/Mo can heal himself or even use those AOE smiting spells. A R/N can do just about anything upclose. A R/W can use tactics to enable him to protect and fend off the warrior. But you know what? All of these things are theories. That includes your ranger vs warrior statement. And as far as I know, Guild Wars doesn't run off theory. Respond if you will, but all you're really doing is beating a dead horse. While you may not let this matter go so easily as nobody likes to admit defeat in an argument, it'll be wise to back off in one way or another.

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

#24

CaptainGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild: Mop bucket

Profession: W/Me

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

We see a multitude of classes in each team.

We see a multitude of classes in each team because they are trying to find an exploit that'll make them dominate against every team, not just to counter another team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

Now, let me ask you this. If you know fighting against a warrior with your ranger brings you so much trouble, why are you fighting the warrior then?

I've been both the warrior and the ranger. I've been both the snarer and the snared. Rangers don't attack warriors because they are threat, I've found that majority of the time that Ranger attack warriors because 1) They are an easy kill and 2) Or they want one less annoyance messing with their casters.

I left my monk to fend for himself against three warriors while I took out their monk and I've done every time and gotten 10 winning streaks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

I'm going to go ahead and use that teamwork "BS" you talked about since 1 vs 1 hasn't been implemented yet. But you know what? Not even team work will necessarily cut it. The key to victory in Guild Wars relies on pre-PvP preparation and you cannot deny that.

If you read my review in Garric's topic (It's the second post on the first page) fights are decide on what build you use, what skills you bring and what exploits you can use against your enemy, which kind of agrees with what said, but adds more to how a fight is determined. Who wins depends on who screws up first or if you get lucky enough to fight a team that doesn't have any counters for your team build.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

In addition to your theory about fighting the warriors, it only holds true if it was just a pure warrior class and a pure ranger class. No subclasses were taken into consideration.

The only subclass for the warrior are spellcaster and one ranger classes. All the moves except from the ranger can be interrupted with choking gas and any non-spell can stopped by distraction shot.

Now if the ranger has a secondary that only makes it hard for the warrior to do anything effective against the ranger. For example, if the ranger has necromancer as a secondary, a ranger can use plague sending to send condition back to the warrior who bleeds, deep wound, weakens and snares him. All while keeping the warrior shutdown or pin down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvaderGIR

Respond if you will, but all you're really doing is beating a dead horse. While you may not let this matter go so easily as nobody likes to admit defeat in an argument, it'll be wise to back off in one way or another.

You didn't even make well thought out post you just made random statements about builds and teams.

CaptainGuru is offline

Jul 13, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#25
Mistress Dasha Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Turner of Tides Profession: W/N	hey Captain you are making valid points but your not realizing the whole picture.. A warrior can dodge your arrows or shut you down with his secondary just as you could with your main. your op has some great stuff in it stick to that.. and with all this knowledge you have stick to your ranger and keep winning battles with your guild and friends. IMO you play a better ranger than warrior..

Jul 13, 2005, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#26
Dudededu Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Valid points in certain conditions... keep throwing stuff into it and it changes. Especially considering you have at least 3-7 more people with you in most fights.

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

#27

CaptainGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild: Mop bucket

Profession: W/Me

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudededu

Valid points in certain conditions... keep throwing stuff into it and it changes. Especially considering you have at least 3-7 more people with you in most fights.

Both you what said and what he said he no bearing because you obviously haven't been in these situation. I've been in such situation as described where I've been 1 on 1 with someone because everyone going up against another person. So again, I'll nicely stop coming up with BS teamwork arguements.

CaptainGuru is offline

Jul 13, 2005, 10:30 PM // 22:30	#28
Dudededu Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	OBVIOUSLY!! I mean my rank must be 0 and my guilds probably never GvG'd or PvP'd before. Your the only one who has, and knows best. I bow out graciously to your superior knowledge about me and thank you for being so nice as you yourself pointed. ^_^ Anyway I still dissagree. But I'll just have to learnt he hard way.

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

#29

CaptainGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild: Mop bucket

Profession: W/Me

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudededu

OBVIOUSLY!!

I mean my rank must be 0 and my guilds probably never GvG'd or PvP'd before.

At this point in the game your rank, guild rank and guild rating means d**k because many of us jump out of GvG for various reasons. I used to be in the 25th rank guild that doesn't mean a damn thing now since they've turn into a guild of noobs and overrated penpals.

So don't throw numbers at mean because they mean little.

CaptainGuru is offline

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 10:52 PM // 22:52

#30

Dudededu

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGuru

At this point in the game your rank, guild rank and guild rating means d**k because many of us jump out of GvG for various reasons. I used to be in the 25th rank guild that doesn't mean a damn thing now since they've turn into a guild of noobs and overrated penpals.

So don't throw numbers at mean because they mean little.

I dont see any numbers... 0 is the lack of numerical value.

But I digress... you must obviously be correct... I threw numbers at you blatantly disregarding your sensitivity to them... that 0 must have hit you hard.

Besides... the 0 was for my rank... not my guilds. Thats a whole other deal

Dudededu is offline

Old

Jul 13, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59

#31

CaptainGuru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild: Mop bucket

Profession: W/Me

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudededu

I dont see any numbers... 0 is the lack of numerical value.

But I digress... you must obviously be correct... I threw numbers at you blatantly disregarding your sensitivity to them... that 0 must have hit you hard.

Besides... the 0 was for my rank... not my guilds. Thats a whole other deal

Please stop trolling in the post. If you have nothing that's relates to the topic then just stop. I can careless how of big of a smartass you can be.

CaptainGuru is offline

Dec 01, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52	#32
Oblivial Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: R/W	1. The whole point of these forums is to discuss. Just because you OBVIOUSLY don't know what you're talking about and everyone is disagreeing with you doesn't mean that we are trying to troll the thread. This just means that we have insight into this discussion. 2. There are ways to get around snares and such like that. The biggest problem we rangers have is warriors strafing and being able to take us up in 1 on 1 combat. We are long range, not short range. 3. Your whole talk about Rangers being able to not do excessive damage? BS. If we have a maxed damage bow with mods on it, a preperation, a spirit, and a power shot or a hunter's shot, we can rack up the damage. Let's see. Apply Poison + Hunter's Shot vs. Moving Target + Favorable Winds and a bow that does Dmg:15-26 - i think we all can get the picture. Hunter's Shot causes bleeding on moving targets for up to 25 seconds, Apply Poison causes poison damage for up to 15 seconds, favorable winds causes +6 damage and arrows move 2x faster. Now, if we get this right, doing this will cause you to take 32 damage for bow and Winds, then damage from teh Hunter's Shot, bleeding from Hunter's Shot, and Poison damage. So you, being the ALLKNOWING Warrior that you are, must have obivously missed this, seeing as how we rangers wouldn't know anything about our class. 4. I believe I never saw anywhere that rangers weren't at a disadvantage to warriors to begin with, but put one in 1 on 1 combat, and we are at a great disadvantage. 5. So we can interrupt people, if you look back in world history - not GW - bowmen have been used to deal damage and interrupt their foes. 6. Seeing as how I have pretty much put down everything you said, I feel my work is done here.

Dec 01, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#33
jesh Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Guild: Penguin Village Profession: Mo/	Why are all these dead topics being brought up? Hit the "First" page, instead of the "Last".

Old

Dec 02, 2005, 02:27 AM // 02:27

#34

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainGuru

Never played Diablo so you can use that Diablo fanboy excuse. This maybe called Guild Wars, but majority of the people solo or find themselves combating opponents alone.

its people like this guy thats always playing the ubah mending paladin with stances.

TadaceAce is offline

Old

Dec 02, 2005, 02:28 AM // 02:28

#35

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Default

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesh

Why are all these dead topics being brought up? Hit the "First" page, instead of the "Last".

Amen brotha. Closed.

Savio is offline

Closed Thread

Page 2 of 2

2

Share This Forum!

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Forum Rules

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Suggestions on gameplay	Stoogybill	Sardelac Sanitarium	1	Aug 26, 2005 06:25 PM // 18:25
Suggestions on Five Attribute Lines For All Classes	Fr3sH	Sardelac Sanitarium	9	Aug 17, 2005 04:55 PM // 16:55
KanRyu	Sardelac Sanitarium	7	Jul 13, 2005 05:57 PM // 17:57
ChildrenOfBodom	Sardelac Sanitarium	7	Jul 03, 2005 09:11 PM // 21:11
Recording Gameplay?	Tur713	Questions & Answers	5	Feb 27, 2005 07:56 AM // 07:56

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:12 AM // 00:12.

jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("